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Riga

Just to clarify, the article says: "Rosa's parents, who originally lived in Vienna, were deported to a Nazi ghetto in Riga, where they perished."

The first source says: "They had remained there until 1942, at the height of the Nazi terror, when they were deported to a ghetto in Riga, Latvia, along with 65,000 other Viennese Jews. Only a small number of those sent to Riga survived. The others, Berta and Samuel among them, were killed."

The second source says: "His mother's great-grandfather, a Hungarian Jew named Neumann, lived for a time in Vienna 'and it was always said of him that he was the kind of man to give you the coat off his back'.But doesn't mention Riga at all.

The third source says: "Stephen Fry, the comedian whose Jewish grandparents emigrated safely to Britain from Central Europe, attempted to put the figure of six million Holocaust dead into some kind of recognisable form; it was the population of six cities the size of Birmingham, or every name in 55 phone directories, or a queue of people from London to Moscow and back.?" But nothing about Riga.

I'm not sure why we have "they perished", when the only source says "were killed". Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:54, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I just added something on that:[1], feel free to have opinions. IMO it should be mentioned per WP:PROPORTION. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:44, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Austrian

This Reuters source says this: "After thanking Austria for changing the law and urging others to vote in the Sept. 29 parliamentary election, Fry said: "I am so proud to be Austrian."" So giving him dual nationality in the lead seems quite reasonable? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:30, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not based on this - it may be ironic or otherwise metaphoric for example. E.g. when JFK claimed to be a Berliner that did not make him a dual German-US national either. Arnoutf (talk) 18:35, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You removed the dual nationality here with the edit summary "He may hold Austrian citizenship, but unless he identifies himself as being British-Austrian, I'm not sure whether we should identify him as such. There are plenty of dual-nationals on Wikipedia and we don't hyphenate their identities without explicit self-identification" Are we really to now search for a source where Fry says: "I am so proud to be British-Austrian"?? How do we know this was "ironic or otherwise metaphoric"? I'm not too sure that JKF is relevant here. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:51, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you could point to some of the "plenty of dual-nationals on Wikipedia" who we do hyphenate, so that we can see what's required? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:04, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]