Talk:Owen O'Shiel
Owen O'Shiel is currently a World history good article nominee. Nominated by SkywalkerEccleston (talk) at 05:54, 11 August 2024 (UTC) An editor has placed this article on hold to allow improvements to be made to satisfy the good article criteria. Recommendations have been left on the review page, and editors have seven days to address these issues. Improvements made in this period will influence the reviewer's decision whether or not to list the article as a good article. Short description: Irish physician |
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Nominator: SkywalkerEccleston (talk · contribs) 05:54, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: IntentionallyDense (talk · contribs) 00:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
I will review this soon. IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
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1. Well-written: | ||
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. | No issues found upon first read-through. IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | |
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. | See comment below. IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | |
2. Verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check: | ||
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. | hold | |
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). | See comments below. IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Passed. IntentionallyDense (talk) 15:39, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | |
2c. it contains no original research. | IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | |
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. | IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | |
3. Broad in its coverage: | ||
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. | See comment below. IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Fixed! IntentionallyDense (talk) 17:39, 15 October 2024 (UTC) | |
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). | IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | |
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. | IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | |
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. | IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | |
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: | ||
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. | IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | |
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. | IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | |
7. Overall assessment. | I'm going to put this on hold to give you time to improve upon the areas I have mentioned thus far. IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC) |
- in 1584 Is unreferanced. IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- The lead needs to be rewritten. See Wikipedia:How to create and manage a good lead section for advice. IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- You can't cite a Wikipedia page as a reference like you did for ref 5. Because of this I'm considering The Annals of the Four Masters reference the 1548 death of Murtagh O'Shiel, "the best physician of his age in the surrounding county". unreferenced till you can provide a better citation. IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- This section is updated SkywalkerEccleston (talk) 10:42, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- I feel like you could get a little bit more detail out of your "Owen O'Shiel, An M.D. of the Seventeenth Century" source. WP:MINE has some advice on this. IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi IntentionallyDense, I will update the page using more info from this source. I can have the page updated in the next 36 hours. SkywalkerEccleston (talk) 12:31, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good. I know I was a bit vaugue with my request but thank you for taking the time to improve things. Just let me know when you're done. IntentionallyDense (talk) 15:32, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi IntentionallyDense, the page is now ready for your review. SkywalkerEccleston (talk) 11:39, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Okay I'll take a look now thank you :) IntentionallyDense (talk) 17:35, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- The level of detail is looking much better now thank you! The only thing that needs to be changed is the lead. It looks good content wise but is there any way it could be written to not need sources (per WP:LEADCITE)? IntentionallyDense (talk) 17:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi IntentionallyDense, the page is now ready for your review. SkywalkerEccleston (talk) 11:39, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good. I know I was a bit vaugue with my request but thank you for taking the time to improve things. Just let me know when you're done. IntentionallyDense (talk) 15:32, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi IntentionallyDense, I will update the page using more info from this source. I can have the page updated in the next 36 hours. SkywalkerEccleston (talk) 12:31, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- What does hereditary family mean?
- Shillings should be spelt out in full. IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- They had many children Do we know how many children they had? IntentionallyDense (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- I have updated this section SkywalkerEccleston (talk) 10:42, 14 October 2024 (UTC)