Talk:List of filmed mass shootings

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Inclusion criteria discussion

Since this is a relatively unique list, I want to see if a formal “inclusion criteria” can be set up. Here’s what I have, feel free to add to it or comment if you have any other suggestions:

Mass shooting must have an article.
4 or more people need to have been injured or killed.
At least 2 reliable sources specifically discussing the filming of the shooting.
A video must have been taken of the shooting during the attack, not after.

Feel free to comment with anything else. :) Sir MemeGod  17:16, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These requirements seem very reasonable. I am surprised no one added the port arthur shooting here yet, the start of the cafe shooting was filmed by the shooter, and the part by the buses was filmed by a camera man. I am also surprised that the Santa Monica shooting, Reina nightclub and moncton shootout have not been added yet, since footage from those three is public. BadMombo1660 (talk) 19:13, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the criteria need to be technology independent. The article title includes the word "filmed", not "videoed", so shootings that are recorded on photographic film should also be able to be included, if any exist, as well as mass shootings that might have been televised live and incidentally recorded on videotape or photographic film. Also, where does one draw the line with saying the moving images ... must have been taken of the shooting during the attack ...? Does this include any ongoing media coverage of any subsequent shootout between the shooter and police after the initial mass shooting but before the shooter is taken into custody or otherwise neutralised? For example, in the Aramoana massacre, though not mentioned in the article, local television news media filmed the final stages of the shootout and this was broadcast as part of an evening news programme. I have subsequently heard interviews with those who covered this event saying they were filming events from a place that was possibly in the line of fire of the gunman. A motion picture was also subsequently made of this incident, so an exclusion criteria is needed to exclude re-enactments, which the title could be interpreted as including. Perhaps the title even needs to say the shootings were "filmed live". - Cameron Dewe (talk) 05:36, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]