Talk:Ancient history of the Negev

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This draft

There is currently no article about the History of the Negev. The brief sections on the Negev page have been rightly criticized multiple times on the talk page; some parts are outdated, and others are overly simplified. Therefore, I have drafted a more accurate Wikipedia history of the Negev here. Since I avoided simplifications, it has become too long, so I would like to split it into "Ancient History of the Negev," "The Taba Crisis," and "Modern History of the Negev." This draft corresponds to the first part. DaWalda (talk) 11:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Idumaeans

@DaWalda, I'm not sure I understand this passage

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Josephus reports that the Maccabees conquered the Idumean border towns of Maresha and Adoraim and presented the Idumaeans with a choice: either be circumcised and adopt Jewish customs or leave the area. Since the Idumaeans were already practicing circumcision and several other customs that would later be recognized as "Jewish" after the time of the Maccabees even before the Judeans, however, unlike a corresponding report about the forced conversion of the Itureans, Josephus might be telling the truth in this case: Archaeology shows that during the Maccabean era, almost the entire region was depopulated, mostly without signs of conflict.

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As far as I remember, Josephus says that they stayed and adopted Jewish customs. So if they fled en masse after the Hasmonean conquest it would contradict his account. Alaexis_¿question? 08:24, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wine

The article by Seligman et al seems to contradict the claim that viticulture and trade with Gaza wine continued unabated in the first Islamic century. The article says

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The huge quantity of amphorae produced in these kilns ... is a clear indicator of the scale of the Gaza and Ashqelon wine industry in Yavne and along the southern coastal plain, which reached its peak from the 5th to the beginning of the 7th centuries CE.

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So it must have abated after the beginning of the 7th century. Alaexis_¿question? 08:54, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]