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"post-ratification procedure"

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Hi – about your edit summary for Special:Diff/1243450754 this reversion: I wouldn’t call what’s currently going on "post-ratification procedure", either, so I’m not arguing for the change that was made, but I don’t think "ratification has not yet been completed" is correct, either – as far as I’m aware, ratification has been completed; the pending steps are depositing the instrument of ratification with the Secretary-General and waiting two months for the Statute to enter into Force for Ukraine. Joriki (talk) 00:35, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's a distinction between the domestic ratification procedure and ratification under international law.
Ukraine may have completed their internal procedures required to ratify the treaty, however it is only when they have formally notified the UN of its consent to be bound by the treaty that the ratification process at the international level is completed. Here is a sources from the UN explaining this:
Ratification
Ratification defines the international act whereby a state indicates its consent to be bound to a treaty if the parties intended to show their consent by such an act. In the case of bilateral treaties, ratification is usually accomplished by exchanging the requisite instruments, while in the case of multilateral treaties the usual procedure is for the depositary to collect the ratifications of all states, keeping all parties informed of the situation. The institution of ratification grants states the necessary time-frame to seek the required approval for the treaty on the domestic level and to enact the necessary legislation to give domestic effect to that treaty.
Once they submit their instrument of ratification then ratification would be completed. However, they wouldn't become a party to the treaty (or a member of the ICC) until it enters into force. TDL (talk) 03:37, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that’s very helpful! Joriki (talk) 06:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]